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's supporters to pressure congress to increase taxes on the wealthy by releasing a report estimating consumers could spend dplooerl $200 billion less in 2013 if no deal is reached. joining me now live from capitol hill is luke russert. luke, what are you hearing from senators regarding this? i note that chuck todd said we should expect some to go against the pledge. it's interesting to see what the house republicans say. >> that is the whole thing, tamron. sure, you're hearing the senate talking about moving toward a bipartisan deal. you're seeing concessions by folks like saxby chambliss and other folks, however, then tire debate comes down to negotiations between president obama and house speaker boehner. specifically what can he sell to the house republican conference. they've been very stubborn in terms of moving toward any significant raising of tax rates in order to garner revenue. we heard plans that they really do see a way forward with the combination of spending cuts, closing tax loopholes. this so-called vagueness we do not know the specifics oup, they're saying, folks, support this
a dark fiscal cliff. a new government report warning is an increase in texa taxes wod crush the middle-class spending. the dow down 70 points. it seems republicans are changing their tune on taxes. i don't know. lou dobbs with us as more congressional leaders break from the antitax pledge. and two years after the signs in cairo they look the same. mohamed morsi moves for absolute power sparking violent clashes in the streets between his supporters and opponents. but first, it is time to check stocks as would every 15 minutes, let's head to the floor of the new york stock exchange. nicole, the market is down and out on the fiscal cliff. i'm afraid. nicole: there's a lot going on on wall street. selling across the board, down 72-point at the lowest .12900, so about 40 points off of the earlier lows, however we are seeing selling from sector to sector with its banks or drugs or retail. the areas that have been pretty good our technology, semi conductors holding on, utilities giving it a go after selling off on concerns of the fiscal cliff of his utilities is a group that paid h
back to work but the clock is ticking. unless lawmakers make a deal, automatic spending cuts and tax increases are just a matter of only a few weeks away for everyone. i'll ask a top member of the republican leadership if there's any room for serious compromise. >>> and if you own a home, deductions that save you money every year could be changing or simply going away. we're taking a closer look. >>> and ballpoint pens that hide poison needles and poison bullets. they sound like props in a cold war era spy movie. but they're part of a real assassination plot. we have details. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we're just 36 days away from the painful across-the-board spending cuts and tax increases people here in washington are calling the fiscal cliff. today, we have new proof that people across the country not only are aware of what's going on, they're very, very worried. our new poll shows 68% say the country will face either a crisis or major problems if the cuts in taxes aren't avoided. and a whopping 77% say their personal financial situation will be affected
me smile until the numbers come out. and then you will get taxed to kingdom come. it will not even help the deficit. warren buffett can help them out. lori rothman and melissa francis with more coming up. dagen: the market is up, that is good. good afternoon read >> pushing for middle-class tax cuts without any spending concessio concessions, president obama to meet with business leaders on the fiscal cliff after speaking just last hour. we'll ask lou dobbs that he thinks ceos will help to make deals happen. >> now washington is looking at the one sacred mortgage deduction, maybe get rid of it to help heal the budget crisis. >> charlie gasparino on the future of the firm. time for stocks as we do every 15 minutes, before the new york stock exchange, nicole petallides on the floor. a deal is possible by christmas. >> hoping to get some positive comments from john boehner. he is optimistic. a nice little boost. from negative to positive to the session highs, no 50 points away from dow 13,000 once again. the dow once again up 73 points. you have a lot of winners. the banking index is
to maintain bush-era tax rates for the poor and middle class, while letting those lower rates expire for higher earners. this morning, the white house put out numbers claiming if we fall off the cliff, consumers will be spending less money next year. how much less, exactly? $200 billion in fiscal 2013 alone. that would be a huge, huge hit on retailers. now, tax hikes are the biggest part, but not the only part of the fiscal cliff. seeing it as a fiscal cliff, the new year will also bring more than $100 billion in spending cuts, if -- if congress and the president can't agree on some other course. all of this brings me to my friend, cnn's christine romans with details on the toll on consumer spending. we threw out the number, $200 billion. what does that mean? >> it comes straight from the white house, trying to ride the coat tails of black friday weekend when throwing around how much money consumers spent over the past four days. the white house is saying, if these tax cuts go away for the middle class and taxes rise and the amt patch goes away and taxes rise on the middle class, it
republicans to put higher tax revenue from the wealthy on the table, democrats are scoffing. he they talked happy talk about are skofg.t we only have a auple of weeks to get something ouple of we have to get away from the happy talk and start talking aout specific things. dent obama hasbama has no new witht talks scheduled with congressional leaders but will cong phila suburban philadelphia aiday to press for an immediate bushto extend bush era tax cuts for m ers.blicans call that agningless electioneering. >> we congratulate him on his re-election. we don't know if he has enough todership qualities to push democrats. >> cost savings to health care aregrams like medicare and medicaid. everyry dollar that's ever been secured for anything is sacred. to they'll defend it to the wath, regardless of what it means for jobs or the economy. > a tough white house ally, nglinois senator dick durbin argued against using fiscal cliff pressures to scale back paidare and medicaid benefits. >> these are people that have paid in over a lifetime into protectecurity and medicare and fully expect the protecti
bipartisan consensus to raise taxes on the wealthy, the sides are still far apart on where the revenue will come from. staff level negotiations are a little bit more than stalled. not fully stalled but they didn't go so great last week and it's unclear where speaker boehner will get the votes for a deal that would raise tax rates. which is why he's pushing against that idea. two senate republicans up for re-election in 2014 have bucked norquist saying they are willing to let taxes ride. chambliss spoke to his hometown station. >> that pledge i signed 20 years ago was valid then. it's valid now, but times have changed significantly. and i care more about this country than i do about a 20-year-old pledge. >> on sunday south carolina senator lindsey graham also broke ranks saying the norquist pledge can no longer be a conservative litmus test. >> when you're $16 trillion in it debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece. but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if it democrats will do entitlement reform. >> b
the people and not to him, that's what he's known for. >> his power comes from this tax pledge. the last thing that he can afford to see more republicans peel off. if they do, then he can't get the next person to sign that pledge. >> tomorrow on "starting point" we're going to be talking to race car driver danica patrick and star of "pretty little liars." cnn newsroom with carols can to casse tell low begins now. >>> horror in bangladesh. two giant clothing factories there go up in flames. they might have made the clothes that are in your closet right now. thousands of workers protest the deaths of their colleagues. were safety warnings ignored? >>> republican rebellion? lindsey graham the latest lawmaker to buck a powerful gop lobbyist and his anti-tax pledge. we'll have the view from the edge of the so-called fiscal cliff. >>> one of the most recognizable voices in hollywood lends his voice to a pro-same-sex marriage ad. >> freedom, justice and human dignity have always guided our journey toward a more perfect union. now across our country, we are standing together for the ri
and picks up just where it left off. stalemated over tax rates and entitlement spending. >> unfortunately, there's one obstacle standing between congress and compromise, grover norquist. for years, norquist has bullied lawmakers willing to put their oath of office or promise to serve constituents ahead of their pledge to this anti-tax zell lot. >> the washington democrats, every dollar that's ever been secured for anything is sacred. every dollar secured for anything is sacred. and they'll defend it to the death regardless of what it means for jobs, or the economy. >>> coming up here, the it's top economic adviser alan krueger. clashes in cairo today, more protests in tahrir square against egypt's president morsi. we'll have a live report. move over george clooney the on yan's kim junge un the sexiest man alive and beijing doesn't get the joke. good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. no joke today on capitol hill. ambassador susan rice's attempt to clear the air with republicans over benghazi did not work as the white house had hoped. senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they
. bill: democrats upping the ante, looking to raise taxes, protect entitlements and raise the debt ceiling all at the same time. stuart varney, hello, there, sir. you think there has been a shift in those negotiations. >> i don't mean a shift in position. i mean a shift in focus, what they are focusing in on on the last couple days it's been taxes now it seems to be we are focusing in on entitlements and spending cuts. the democrats and the republicans are presenting a united front saying no cuts to entitlement. no entitlement reform. the unions have an ad campaign saying don't touch entitlements. the president campaigner in chief saying the same thing. he put no entitlement reform front. a unified front on entitlements. bill: we did two hours of television yesterday. i saw a story that was as far apart from coming to agreement as is possible. do you see any give between these two sides? >> i saw a statement from senator dick durbin generally considered on the left of his party, he's saying, nobody should be so naive as to believe that just taxing the rich will solve our problems.
a year-end fiscal cliff. yesterday the white house took a hard line insisting tax rates have to rise on the rich and warning that anymore delay on the deal could ruin consumer confidence and hurt holiday retail sales. nbc's tracie potts joins us from washington with the details. tracie, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. today we'll see a continued push by the white house. in fact, for the rest of this week, new details released this morning, still pushing for those taxes on the rich. meantime, here on capitol hill we're seeing some small signs of compromise. today president obama meets with small business leaders continuing his push for higher taxes for the wealthy. a new xhous economic report warns if tax breaks go away, the average middle class family will owe uncle sam another $2200 next year. >> it seems to be the thing we can agree on, that middle class families should see an extension of these tax cuts. >> reporter: some prominent republicans dead set against raising taxes on anyone now hint they may consider other options. >> we've been open to revenue by closing
of raising taxes in the face of the fiscal cliff. >>> courageous until the end. a former mayor in mexico who fearlessly stood up to the drug cartels found murdered. >>> and face-to-face behind closed doors today, u.n. ambassador susan rice takes on one of her sharpest critics, senator john mccain, over her actions after the benghazi attack. good morning and welcome to "early start," i'm deborah feyerick in for john berman. >> really nice to have you. >> i'm so glad to be here. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. it's 5:00 a.m. in the east. first, congress back to work, and back to bickering. in just under 35 days, america hits the fiscal cliff. that triggers severe spending cuts and tax hikes. several top republicans are now defying party politics and signaling a willingness to consider increasing tax revenues to get a budget deal done. but when the lame duck senate got back in session yesterday it sure sounded like the same old broken record. >> the senate has spoken. president obama has spoken. he's promising he will not sign any bill that mortgages our future to pay for handouts to the wealthiest 2%
't act, if the president doesn't act, in unison, your taxes are going up come january 1st to help raise revenue to pay down the national debt. stay with me here for a moment because we'll show you exactly, you know, how much your taxes will be rising. but here's the thing. it doesn't have to happen, this predetermined jump in income taxes and the new parlor game on capitol hill is to pick the next republican, follow me here who is willing to break a no tax pledge made to a very powerful lobbyist, in order to cut a deal with the democrats to focus the pain of new taxes on the wealthy. see this picture? see these three guys. here is yet another republican speaking just this morning. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. i made tennesseans aware i was just elected that the only thing i'm honoring is the oath that i take when i serve when i'm sworn in this january. >> so republican senator bob corker is saying his oath of office trumps any no tax pledge made to washington lobbyist grover nor quist. republican saxby chambliss says he cares more about america and the fiscal mess we're in than h
washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. why use temporary treatments when you can prevent the acid that's causing it with prevacid24hr. with one pill prevacid24hr works at the source to prevent the acid that causes frequent heartburn all day and all night. and with new prevacid24hr perks, you can earn rewards from dinner deals to music downloads for purchasing prevacid24hr. prevent acid all day and all night for 24 hours with prevacid24hr. >>> how do you say a person like susan rice is not qualified? you may not like her. i you may not like the administration. but don't say she's not qualified. she is the most qualified person that i'm sure any of you know, that the senators know. it is a shame that anytime
everybody, our start start this morning the fight over the cliff intensifies. remember that no tax hike pledge. new signs that the gop may be starting to rebel from that. maybe a compromise before the 35-day deadline passes. and congress gets back to work this morning. plus a power grab in egypt. mohamed morsi under fire for granting himself extraordinary powers. will that affect cease-fire talks between israel and hamas? they're happening in egypt today. >> and $59 billion! retail records broken as americans crowded stores for some competitive shopping over the weekend. and now cyber monday is here. will shoppers be in even more of a spending mood? >> you want to talk about money? a new powerball jackpot. a new record in the cash payout. it's unreal. >> a packed two hours ahead for you this morning. new jersey congressman bill pascrell will be joining us, grover norquist, jamie rubin, dr. hanan ashrawi, will be our guest, peter billingsley from a christmas story, and grinle college hoops star jack taylor. remember him? big game he had the other day. and the one and only tony benne
it with me, 35 days to avoid the dreaded fiscal cliff, the huge package of tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect january 1 if congress and the president do not cut a deal. we're told they have been talking behind the scenes and president obama has already hosted congressional leaders for a post election sit-down. but the president is also launching a new pr effort, a campaign, some are calling it here, starting with the white house meeting today, of small business owners. then tomorrow, the president hosts more business owners and a group of middle class americans who would be hurt if the tax hikes take effect the first of the year. then friday, a campaign style stop in pennsylvania, a toy factory of all places, highlighting the importance of middle class consumers in this holiday season. but back in washington, senate leaders, they are speaking out. you have democrat harry reid saying the president won the election. and it is time for republicans to fall in line. meantime, republican mitch mcconnell not impressed with the president's plans to go back on the road. take a listen. >
to raise taxes we're going to do it on everybody. that to me is fairness. i don't think anybody's taxes ought to be raised. i'm offended listening to the people responsible for this blame the american people because they're not paying enough in taxes for the problem. that's not our problem. our problem is a spending problem, first, second, third, fourth, fifth, on down to number ten. >> the countdown is on and we're 42 days from running off the so-called fiscal cliff. yesterday as you heard, rush limbaugh came down hard against raising taxes to solve this problem. he lamented the gop infighting whether to let the bush tax cuts expire on the richest americansp during a speech yesterday, federal reserve chairman ben bernanke who coined the term fiscal cliff warned of dire consequences if congress doesn't get their act together. >> spending cuts that make up the fiscal cliff absent offsetting changes would pose a substantial threat recovery. by the reckoning of the congressional budget office, the cbo, and that of many outside observers a fiscal shock of that size would send the economy to
to avoid the tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in early next year. susan mcginness is in washington with all details this morning. good morning to you. >> talks are starting on capitol hill this week amid new signs republicans are willing to take a new look at an anti-tax pledge they made. president obama and congress begin negotiations this week to avoid the coming fiscal cliff. about $600 billion in automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that will kick in at year-end. both sides say they're looking for ways to compromise. >> that's what representative government should be about. no one gets all they want. if reagan and o'neill could do it, boehner and obama should be able to do it. >> reporter: but republicans have consistently voted against any deal that raises tax revenue. >> the key here is whether or not the republicans will move away from the ideologically rigid position which has been the grover/norquist pledge which most of them signed that they will not go for additional revenues. >> reporter: for the first time, even the anti-tax pledge appears to be negot
a break the no tax pledge. that is a hopeful sign, folks, because a new cnn/orc poll shows more than two thirds of americans believe a trip over that cliff would create major problems, perhaps even a crisis. cnn political editor paul steinhauser is live from washington, d.c. this morning. nice to see you, paul. so the fiscal cliff triggers back-breaking tax hikes and massive spending cuts. you've got more numbers that show what type of budget plan americans actually prefer. >> exactly. one of the big arguments, zoraida, is should it be all spending cuts to get us there or tax increases, as well? brand-new numbers just out from cnn/orc. only about one in three say whatever deal should be struck should be just spending cuts. but almost seven in ten, two thirds of americans say the plan should include spending cuts and tax increases. our poll indicates americans are not so optimistic a deal will get done and if it doesn't get done, who gets the blame? look at this right here, about 45% say republicans in congress will be blamed if there is no deal and the country falls off the fiscal cliff.
that pushed that no new taxes pledge signed bay majority of republicans in congress. here's what chambliss says. i care more about my country than i do a 20-year-old pledge. he's willing to let the political consequences take care of themselves. raising taxes has been at the center of the fiscal cliff dispute. democrats demanding it. republicans saying no way. so amy, is this a sizable crack in the republican armor? >> we are seeing that the two sides are going to need to negotiate if we don't go over the fiscal cliff. i would point out that patty murray, a democratic senator from washington state says we should go over it, certainly in contrast to the rest of her party. so i think that we're seeing negotiations on both sides. but i want to point out what the fiscal cliff really means. it means the tax rates go up for everyone across the board. if you earn a paycheck, your taxes are going up. that's not just your federal income tax. that's your social security tax as well. we've been on a social security tax holiday, people are unaware of this, only as employees paying in 2.4%. after decem
" reports this morning that a budget deal could reduce the tax deduction millions pay on their mortgage interest. nancy cordes is on capitol hill. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, charlie, and norah. the president and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone over the weekend. top aides in the house and senate tell us that negotiations at this point are just taking place between the president's staff and speaker boehner's staff. that's because any deal that involves raising tax revenue is going to face its biggest challenge in the republican-led house. top republicans returning from thanksgiving recess urged the president to make the first offer in fiscal cliff negotiations. and they expressed a new openness to raising tax revenue, if democrats agree to make cuts to strengthen medicare and medicaid. >> elections come and go. and when they go the spirit to find common ground becomes greater. >> reporter: georgia republican saxby chambliss and mark warner lead the gang of eight. four senate democrats and four senate republicans, who originally met
tax hikes will hurt the middle class. obama will meet with the second group of ceos at 4:45 p.m. to get their input on how to solve the crisis. the group will include brian roberts, and yahoo!'s marisa meyer. for more, we're joined now by charles deebel. the president meeting today over the fiscal cliff. really the reason for the underperformance we've seen, not just in u.s. equities, but actually worldwide overnight. >> i think so, i think there's really a reevaluation with respect to europe going on as well, and having had a greek solution. and then they start to look at the rest of the eurozone, particularly spain. so you deal with one issue, but there are still plenty more stacked up behind. so that didn't help. but yeah, those comments clearly not constructive. it is the number one problem now having got to greece effectively out of the way, spain is on the back burner. the u.s. fiscal cliff is the worry at the moment. >> for all the time we've already spent talk about it, the reaction seems to reflect the fact that an assumption that they will reach a deal is priced in a
to revisit this. taxing legislation has to come through the house of representatives. so there's john boehner's mandate. >> now, donna, there's another quote from that article in the cincinnati inquirer i want to show and ask you about. he said in it there are essentially three major routes to repeal the president's law, the court of congressional process, with those routes coming up short, the third and final one becomes more important than ever. do you think that's the message of the last election to try to essentially repeal obama care by investigation? >> no. that's not the message. i understand that speaker boehner is still trying to pander to those who lost the election, but the truth is is that two-thirds of this law is already being implemented across the country. some of the most important provisions are about to be implemented in 2013. and of course 2014 when the state exchanges come into play. i think it's important to focus on implementing this law to ensure that we get the kind of quality care, you know, that all americans deserve. and the fact we're trying to insure millions of
in the second term -- >> a key sticking point is what to do about taxes and now they want to raise taxes on the wealthy while republicans done while capping certain reductions. >>> police officers can start applying and at 8:00 a.m. they will begin accepting applications for entry level officers. they must be at least 20 years old and have a valid california driver's license or equivalent. the application will start december 7th and starting salary is 88,000 dollars a year. in the city of antioch, we offer a new incentive to apply to its police force and they are set to apply tomorrow to change the formula for transfers for existing officers. he had a pension of 3% of last year's salary times the number of years they worked for the department. he has 14 vacant positions. >>> and car buffs are hitting show rooms next year. they are in san francisco showcasing 39 auto makers and it is the 55th year event and they can test drive some of the newest models. the show opens until 8:00 and tickets are $9. >> 4:45, just the fog out there is really dense out there and it is really bad. >> hey, t
fiscal cliff, those tax increases and spending cuts that would kick in next year. lawmakers returned to washington yesterday amid some talk of compromise, but the issue of how to raise revenue remains a critical and hard to overcome sticking point. susan mcginnis is live in washington with more. >> reporter: those changes kick in if no alternative deal is made. as of now, both sides are still talking about their willingness to compromise, but when it comes to that main issue, raising tax rates, both sides are digging in. democratic senator dick durbin will give what's being called a major speech laying out a case for a bipartisan fiscal deal. he's a member of the senate's gang of eight, four democrats and four republicans who have collaborated on ways to reduce the nation's debt for two and a half years. democratic senator mark warner is part of the gang and says democrats are willing to put entitlements like medicaid and medicare on the negotiating table. >> the math just doesn't work anymore. not because the programs are bad, but because thank goodness, we're living a lot longer. >
. if congress and president obama fail to reach an agreement massive tax cuts and spending cuts automatically kick in january 1. anti-tax crusader slamming chambliss. he broke with norquist no tax break pledge. he cares more about his country than the pledge. >>> there were signs truce between israel and hamas is taking hold this weekend. palestinian sources say israel has eased restriction on gaza fishermen allowing them to go up to six miles from shore. the fishermen were restricted to three miles into the mediterranean. palestinian farmers resumed tending land. hamas official say egyptian and israeli officials are expected to meet monday to discuss details of that cease-fire. >>> to egypt now where what's happening makes well, the arab spring look like it never ended. we remember the crowds of demonstrators, protesters, a regime bent on consolidating and preserving its power. that was then. this is the scene right now. demonstrators are back spending the night in tahrir square. president mohamed morsi announced sweeping new powers for himself. ordering egyptian court not to overturn any de
everyone's taxes go up. both sides set to meet with business leaders this week. the company will take his campaign on the road, too, as more republicans appear willing to bend on their no new taxes pledge. jon karl is in washington. even though the president has been calling congressional leaders, they haven't made enough progress for another face-to-face negotiation. >> reporter: there's no face-to-face meeting even scheduled now between the president and congressional leaders. but i can tell you that high-level talks with staff are intensifying, with time running out. and republicans are expressing a newfound willingness to compromise on that long-standing republican pledge never to raise taxes. >> the pledge was designed -- >> reporter: meet the anti-tax enforcer. the man behind the pledge. grover norquist. >> republicans who vote for a tax increase are rat heads in a coke bottle. they damage the brand for everyone else. >> reporter: ronald reagan was part of the first pledge. and no republican has been elected without signing that no tax increase pledge. how many of these things have
way to do that and come back over tax reform next year. i think what the signs are that the president wants to raise tax rates on the wealthiest 2% of earners, a balanced approach, but the republican party is saying, hey, wait a minute. let's close tax loopholes, close deductions. that's a better way. so i think they are looking for are a path down the middle. >> doug, try to reconcile all of this. you have "the washington post" which highlighted the number of polls showing people want smaller government but they don't want cuts in any of the entitlement programs. they do want the deficit cuts. you can't have it all, right? >> right. well, if you look at the exit polling, most were supportive of raising rates on the rich and that has been consistent throughout this election season. i'm bullish. i don't know if it's the turkey or the drink or the redskins victory yesterday affecting me here but i'm bullish that there will be a solution. you have three dynamics here at play. you have a president who is significantly stronger, i think, speaker boehner is stronger inside of his conference
. oh, let me guess --ou see this? more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. >>> a frightening moment for this woman walking her dog in israel when she heard the warning that a rocket was headed for her neighborhood. she shot this video as she took cover. [ bleep ] . >> you can hear those explosions in the distance, right? she is a teacher in israel, lives about a mile from the gaza border. even though classes are canceled and the children have been evacuated, she has chosen to stay home to take care of her dogs. she joins us now via skype. good morning. >> good morning. >> i guess it's afternoon there. so good afternoon. before we get to your personal story, i'm sure you've heard by now about the bus at
with sharp tax increases by law they take effect automatically and many experts fear will throw the u.s. economy back into a recession. both congress and the white house are trying to make a deficit reduction deal to avoid the financial chaos. and president obama's reverting to some campaign mode right now to try to make sure things are done his way. our white house correspondent dan lothian is joining us now with new information. what are you learning, dan? >> reporter: well, wolf, while senior members of the administration including secretary geithner, chief of staff jack lou also top advisor meeting with -- the president himself trying to sell his vision to the public, but some say it's not a winning strategy. it doesn't take a gps to find the way to the fiscal cliff. much more difficult, finding the off ramp. at the president's first meeting with congressional leaders more than a week ago, there was a sense of optimism. >> my hope is is that this is going to be the beginning of a fruitful process. >> reporter: there was a follow-up phone call with house speaker john boehner, but a
. they are pushing congress to renew tax cuts before they expire by the end of this year. what they are saying about the president's campaign style approach to deal with this looming crisis. >>> and 400,000 californians are carefully watching this fiscal drama and that's because emergency benefits are due to expire unless congress agrees to an extension. here they are noticing possible loss of benefits are being mailed out this week. >>> let's check in with tara in for sal castaneda, it could be a sticky commute with the rain. >>> yes, we want to make sure you give yourself enough time today and right now if we take a look outside, this is a look at the east shore freeway as you drive towards the mcarthur maze, and as we look at the bay bridge toll plaza folks are headed to san francisco and they are not experiencing any delays. finally a look at 280 in san jose, traffic is looking good in both directions, here is steve. >>> well, we have a little bit of a lull before the system comes in and if you leave now you might beat the bulk of it. everything is offshore poised to move in and today it is wide
the door to revenue but not by raising taxes. is that going to be enough? might that be the compromised point? >> if you listen to the white house and top democrats it might not be, because they're saying, i think treasury secretary geithner said the other day that's not enough money. president obama starting negotiations at $1.6 trillion in revenues, that's twice as much as the president seemed to agree to two summers ago before the fiscal cliff debt negotiations collapsed with speaker boehner. so i think that's the dividing line right there, whether it's going to be eliminating deducts or higher rates. there's pressure from left on the president to hold the line. he won the election, he told labor leaders last week, prior to meetings on friday, with capitol hill leaders he was going to hold the line. the white house's taking a tough tact here. >> congressman ellison suggests that is not enough on politics nation last night. let's take a listen. >> all of those guys who signed pledges for grover norquist, they're still around. i think the tea party was somewhat of a fleeting moment. he
things, you're saying taxes should go-- in other words, the bush tax cuts should be allowed to expire on everyone under $500,000. which is more than what the president is saying. he's saying it ought to be at 250. yet difference? and have you tukd him about that? >> sure, yeah, yeah, it was over 500, not under 500. yeah, i-- that position, judy, is one that i put on the table a year ago. and i'll tell you why. there isn't anything sort of theological about the $500,000 number. it's just a compromise. the democrats' position has been tax cuts to expire over 250. the republicans' position has been make all the tax cuts permanent. so a year ago i put a of a compromise on the table. if that compromise were accepted, it would raise $500 billion in revenue over the next 10 years, which would take the potential trillion-dollar sequester and cut it in half. and there arar a couple of other steps i put on the table during the campaign as well that would reduce the need to find savings that would shred the safety net or hurt the economy. i am really heartened by the of discussion that are takin
, expiration of the pay roll tax holiday, and cuts in unemployment benefits. all those things are considered. joining us now is alex. it's good to see you. >> good to see you, fredricka. >> before we get to that fiscal cliff, let's talk about one of the things they talk about, whether it's raising taxes, revenue, however you want to define it. republican senator saxby chandless of georgia broke ranks with grover norquist and his anti-tax pledge. he signed the pledge after he first ran in 2008. but here's what he told our cnn affiliate in macon, georgia, about his commitment thus far to that pledge. >> times have changed significantly, i care more about the country than i do about a 20-year-old pledge. i think we owe the debt and we got to figure out a way to pay it. >> and of course, that pledge creator, grover norquist, fired back on cnn "the situation room" just yesterday. >> the commitment he made to the people of georgia was not to me. it was a written commitment to the people of georgia that he would go to washington to reduce government spending and reform government, not raise taxes.
this shortened trading session. >>> senator saxby chambliss has signed activist grover norquist famous anti-tax pledge but he says he's ready to talk tax hikes to avoid a fiscal cliff. he said earlier this week, quote, i care more about my country than i do a 20-year-old pledge. if we do it his way, we'll continue in debt and i just have a disagreement with him about that. he's talking about grover. >>> in suburban washington you're taking a look at community leaders, union leaders and perhaps some walmart workers. they're heading toward a walmart store. we believe they made it to a parking lot. as you know, they're protesting salary and health benefits for the workers at walmart. renee marsh is among the protesters, joining us now live. fill us in, renee. >> reporter: good morning, carol. i can tell you that they have finally made their way to the outside of this walmart here. just take a look. you can see how many people are out here. i would estimate it is in the hundreds. and they're all chanting. some of them wearing signs, some of them holding signs that say that the wages just aren't whe
about health care and education and issues like that than they are concerned about taxes. what do you get from mitt romney? you get a campaign that's all about tax cuts rather than about the core kitchen table bread and butter issues. i have been saying that's a big mistake for a long time. now you have a lot of republicans who are catching up, who are getting it. it's about time. >> do you think, roland, they can get it and make up the ground they've lost? so many people are saying you've lost hispanics, you're never getting them back, you're done, there's no more gop. is that ridiculous? >> first of all, i have michael steele on my tv show on sunday and we talked about this year. the republican party has to listen to people. they can't just say well, this is where we stand, what we stand for, and we really don't want to hear what you have to say. you look at what the democrats did, look at what president obama did. they looked at five, six, seven, eight different issues in terms of being able to put together their coalition which was a winning coalition. the republican party often o
not reach a deal your taxes could rise and sharp spending cuts would go into effect as well possibly triggering a recession. chuck todd is nbc's political director and chief white house correspondent. chuck, good morning to you. >> good morning, savannah. >> the goal here is to get a deal that reduces the deficit, and the battle lines have been pretty clear right now. the president campaigned rolling back the tax breaks for the highest earnings and republicans argued spending cuts are the way to get the deficit under control. are we starting to see a softening of those positions on both sides? >> reporter: here's what there's agreement on. both sides, both parties agree that the wealthiest have to pay more, and the question now and the sticking point at this stage is how do you go about making the wealthiest pay more? do you do it by raising the tax rates? that's what president obama wants to do. wants to raise the tax freights 35% where they are now up to where they were during the clinton years at 39% what. republicans are arguing is you don't have to do that. you can get all of th
will do entitlement reform. >> the key sticking point is what 0 do -- to do about taxes. they want to raise taxes and republicans don't want to. they are willing to cap certain deductions. >>> and perspective police officers, you can start applying for jobs at the san francisco police department this morning and they will start accepting applications for entry level police officers. eligible application cans have to be at least 20 years old, have a valid california driver's license and high school diploma or equivalent. it will end on friday december 7th and the starting pay for a san francisco police officer is 88,000 dollars a year. well for the san francisco 49ers there are quarterback questions all over again. it happened for the second straight game for the quarterback and coming up, what coach jim harbaugh is saying about who will be his starter in the future. >>> we have been talking about fog and i'm not sure if there is an incident in south san francisco. northbound at the 380 split, just north of fso, let's head out to our maps and a bicycle is laying on the shoulder and
a way to avoid that so called fiscal cliff that could raise your taxes and throw the economy back into recession. kristen welker is in our washington bureau. good morning. >> reporter: president obama is also facing a number of challenges overseas, as you say, from the unrest in the middle east to the continuing fallout over the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. but the fiscal cliff looms large. president obama returning from a post-thanksgiving round of golf, but off the links, the clock is ticking. lawmakers need to hammer out a deal to prevent the so called fiscal cliff. deep spending cuts and tax hikes set to take effect next year. >> i think we're all aware that we have some urgent business to do. >> reporter: after a meeting at the white house last week, congressional leaders struck a rare tone of bipartisanship. >> we had a very constructive meeting with the president. >> we feel very comfortable with each other. >> reporter: but a major sticking point remains -- taxes. president obama wants to let the bush era tax cuts expire for the wealthiest americans. many repu
the tunnel trade to egypt. they tax everything that goes through. nobody can dig a tunnel, operate a tunnel, without paying taxes, officially or unofficially. so there is a feeling that hamas is in a sense turned gaza into its own business. and how -- do people know where all of the rocket batteries are? where hamas is? we ourselves are trying to figure out is there hamas in a building where we are, there might be a strike? do people know everything about the locations of hamas installations? >> gaza is a small place. 1.5 million, 1.7 million people. everybody here seems to everybody everybody else, know who their family, what their family background is, so people have a good idea of who is hamas and who isn't. on the other hand, they aren't strangers, palestinians, gazans, like everything else, so they have an ability to sort of slip around and not be -- sort of conceal their identity. but people are very aware of sort of everyone's basic inclinations. >> really interesting, anne marie. when you talk to israeli officials like the ambassador, they keep denying that hamas comes out stronger
has her at the breaking point. >> now the borough wants the property taxes, and i have to pay homeowner's insurance and flood insurance. >> reporter: and she is determined her family will never go through this again. anne thompson, nbc news. sayreville, new jersey. >>> up next, he shoots, scores, over and over and over. the kid who didn't just break a record? he shattered it. >>> well, you can bet this will be a topic of conversation around a few thanksgiving dinner tables tomorrow. a 5'10" sophomore from iowa just re-wrote the ncaa basketball record books, scoring a huge 138 points in just one game. here is nbc's thanh truong. >> reporter: jack taylor's shots were not fancy, just frequent, in a 40-minute game, the sophomore point guard scored a record ncaa record, 138 points. >> i can't really put it in words, i was just in a zone. >> reporter: taylor took one shot every 20 seconds, compare it to the late chamberlain, when he set the nba record of 100 points in 1962. >> i hit several in a row, i knew something was special. >> reporter: unlike the 7 foot chamberlain, taylor sc
black friday and maybe their taxes will go up at the same time is this fiscal cliff threat playing any role in what we're seeing as it relates to holiday shopping? >> it is and it isn't. 64% of the people that were polled by the national retail federation said they were going to be affected by the political uncertainty and how they would be shopping this year, but last year people spend about $740 during the holiday season. that's expected to go up by-10 year to 750 so even though they are saying they are concerned about the fiscal cliff, definitely worried about their finances, the taxes, the economic climate, people do seem to have holiday fever, and they are out there shopping. when you think about what are they shopping for this year? it's a lot of big-ticket items. they are calling it the year of the toy which typical. you've got barbies and legos and furbies, and guess what else is also at the top of the list, apple products, iphones, ipads, mini ipads. those are very expensive items, and they are not being discounted because companies like apple don't have to, so even though peo
on the best network. exclusively at verizon. >>> top u.s. senator is moving away from an anti-tax pledge from grover norquist. facing looming tax hikes at the end of the year if they don't act, senator chambliss said, quote, i care more about my country than i do a 20-year-old pledge. if we do it his way then we'll continue in debt and i just have a disagreement with him about that. interesting. >>> want to give back this holiday season? more than 30,000 airline tickets have been given to service members and their families as part of what's called the hero miles program. launched by the fisher house foundation, it allows people to donate their frequent flyer miles to wounded, injured and sick military service members and their families. now there's a new opportunity to do the same with hotel points. joining us now from baltimore to tell us more about the hotels for heroes program are dave coker and senator ben cardin of maryland who helped to pass legislation for this. let me talk to you first, mr. co coker. first of all, great to see you again this year. tell me a little bit about this new p
a key advantage in states like california. no sales tax. local bookstores already under pressure by the rapid rise of ebooks and large bookstore ch n chains feel flar lparticularly squeezed. >> if you can save 10%, why wouldn't you? >> reporter: amazon's tax advantage recently disappeared in california adding 7% to 10% to the cost of each order. it also began taxing this year in other states like pennsylvania and texas. online retailers collect tax only for states where they have a physical presence. now here in california, amazon is building two giant warehouses. including this one near los angeles. it is a million square feet, and for the old-fashioned retailers, it is another reason to worry. why? because amazon's goal is to get items to customers faster and to be able to offer same day delivery. that's right. you can avoid stores if you want, and have a package delivered to your house in a matter of hours. a win for consumers, but tough for local retailers. >> if amazon creates distribution centers, and facilities on their turf locally, that takes away the one advantage we s
they have, those taxes. those are the people i think that want to help their country. the country has been so good to them. arlet them try to figure out how to get our country moving again. >> and i think obama has to realize the moment. for a re-elected president there is so much good will out there, even among his opponents. now, we had an election which i think was decided but not decisive. there were, what, 57 million people who voted for romney. and there is a way that obama can kind of step forward and say, "these are the ideas. this is the method we're going to do this." he can-- i mean, you know, you talk to this man-- i mean, you don't get to talk to the people you write about. i get to talk to obama and say, "why did you do this? what happened here?" and he has good answers. he equips himself very well, and he needs to say, this is the theory of the case. this is how we're going to work this out. and the capacity and the good will with there. >> he said-- he's-- his best speech ever, i thought, was when he gave his race speech in 2008. he did that without the help of a lot of pol
's pass legislation now. we passed it in the house to keep the tax rates where they are, to stave off the fiscal cliffs. and democrats say we won't pass anything that extends the ratings for everybody. so the question is, what does this opening move look like. i don't think there will be much agreement on even what the opening move looks like, moving forward. >> we don't want to be pessimistic, it is almost thanksgiving, let's all just wish each other happy thanksgiving, and wish all of our politicians to come back afterwards and just get some deals done. thank you both very much for joining me. >> thank you for having us. >> and we'll be right back. con- still the most dependable, longest-lasting full-size pickups on the road. and now we've also been recognized for lowest total cost of ownership -- based on important things, like depreciation, fuel, and maintenance costs. and now trade up to get a 2012 chevy silverado all-star edition with a total value of $9,000. from outstanding value to standing the test of time, chevy runs deep. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and m
. he did con socede that eventual the way to raise revenue will be for the wealthy to pay a higher tax rate. david coney is talking about addressing the entitlement issue but wants a corporate tax rate of zero. no doubt that would create huge outrage. he says that's the most effective way to create jobs in the u.s. and frees up so much money for companies to hire. many would probably agree that's important, too. you can see both sides of the story there, carol. one more extreme than the other, of course. >> of course. we'll see what happens. alison kosik at the new york stock exchange. >>> good news for the housing market as home prices rise across the country with the biggest quarterly jump in two years. christine romans is in new york with more. good morning, christine. >> good morning, carol. more evidence that the housing market is healing. we've seen report after report on this. the biggest quarterly gain in two years. s&p kay schicase-shiller report. national home prices up 3.6% in the third quarter. can i show you the cities with the biggest gains? as you know, all real estate i
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